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Enmakenryuu	Honestly speaking...this has to be the worst trade of my lifetime..		Lead	[-]
Rem Pup Posts: 210 08/01/08 2:10 AM Cali Dawg	Tags : None Not only did we get rid of the best slugger this side of Alex Rodriguez....but we also give up Brandon moss and craig hanson...two upper mid level prospects. And in return we get.....Jason bay??? dont get me wrong..bay is a good player but we needed bullpen help not this... This trade is a clear cut example of the FO wanting to offload someone no matter what it cost...i mean seriously..how the hell do we end up giving up the most and getting the least.. i honestly belive Manny must have ran over theo's cat or somthing...becouse this trade makes no sense...and im sure some of you will disagree...but let me spin it around for a minute.. Say this trade was EXACTLY the same...but replace manny with ortiz....how many of you would be chastizing the sox?....and now take into account that manny and ortiz are pretty similar players...Ortiz may have more power but manny hits for a better avg. I honestly think that unless Jason Bay has an Otherworldly 2nd half that the sox are now in trubble..and this trade is even worse then the Gagne trade last year..just what i think tho.... I just hope he does not sign with another AL east team next year and haunt us....... Last Edited By: Enmakenryuu 08/01/08 2:56 AM. Edited 1 time.
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Rem Pup Posts: 455 08/01/08 9:24 AM Rem Pup	I may be in the minority here, but I absolutely agree. I'm just worried that he'll sign with the Evil Empire, especially since he grew up in NYC. I think the Red Sox have given up on the playoffs this year. I know Manny pulled a lot of garbage, but the man put up numbers. http://www.livejournal.com/users/mmc327/
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RemDawg Posts: 6918 08/01/08 9:50 AM RemDawg	Personally I fault the FO for letting this get out of hand but this wasn't like the other Manny episodes. Manny Ramirez NEVER talked publicly about his issues with the RS before. I may be in the minority but I think that Theo Epstein in particular fueled the issue with his comments to FOX. But by yesterday morning it was what it was... The trade itself? In the other Manny thread it was framed beautifully in a post. The RS acquired Jason Bay (an established MLB player with a near .900 OPS) fro Brandon Moss and the enigmatic Craig Hansen. Not a bad deal. Manny for all intent and purposes was given his release, the RS were able to control it being to National League team in this trade. Bay for Moss and Hansen isn't a bad deal. And as for Manny's value at the deadline with all the baggage his relationship with the RS has created, let's understand that the RS weren't given any better offers.
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Rem Pup Posts: 14 08/01/08 10:52 AM	The RS acquired Jason Bay (an established MLB player with a near .900 OPS) fro Brandon Moss and the enigmatic Craig Hansen. Not a bad deal. Manny for all intent and purposes was given his release, the RS were able to control it being to National League team in this trade. ... the type of deal you make when you are rebuilding... except you expect to dump payroll... And Scot Boras is involved... 60/40 at least that Manny wears pinstripes next year - and for three years after that... wouldn't be surprised if he hasn't already asked Hank the Hut if the Bankees will be looking for (wink, wink) an outfielder / DH (wink wink) in case one becomes available (wink wink)
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RemDawg Posts: 10068 08/01/08 10:56 AM RemDawg	Larry Anderson for Jeff Bagwell was worse than this. _________________ Green Monster 1947 - 2002. RIP
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RemDawg Posts: 6920 08/01/08 11:03 AM RemDawg	MORNDEWVT wrote: ... the type of deal you make when you are rebuilding... except you expect to dump payroll... And Scot Boras is involved... 60/40 at least that Manny wears pinstripes next year - and for three years after that... wouldn't be surprised if he hasn't already asked Hank the Hut if the Bankees will be looking for (wink, wink) an outfielder / DH (wink wink) in case one becomes available (wink wink) Again, I don't applaud how the RS got there but yes they were dumping Manny, not payroll. As for seeing Man-Ram in pinstripes I don't think so. The NYY are going to take their Giambi money and go after Mark Tex with everything they have. That is where the RS - NYY bidding war could be. He is the jewel of the FA class. The right age, solid defense, impressive offense and a switch hitter. The NYY are loaded with aging DHs and Manny at this stage of his career is ill suited to play 81 games in LF (where they expect to have Matsui back next year and need PT for Damon too). Between Posada, Damon and Matsui they are going to have a guy to pencil ionto the DH slot every day.
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RemDawg Posts: 5632 08/01/08 2:03 PM Deputy Dawg	Good topic but there are 14 pages of it going on here so I'm going to close this down: What's Going On With Manny Sorry to ask this--did we just win ANOTHER World Series?
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